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	<title>Comments on: “In Advance of Failure Foreseen”: Why James Agee Still Matters</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Pitts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Pitts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and thanks for your essay Liza!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and thanks for your essay Liza!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Pitts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Pitts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a lifelong admirer (and teacher) of Updike and Agee (Let Us Now Praise), I find Updike&#039;s middle-aged suburban irony and Agee&#039;s youthful, urban sincerity both difficult to teach undergraduates and necessary for my students to experience. I&#039;ve always wondered if Agee ruined himself out of fear of becoming, perhaps inevitably, Updike himself--successful, ironic, and a finally empty (Licks of Love--Agee&#039;s nightmare) version of his own golfing adulterers. And Updike, perhaps, was successful because he was able to repress with his slick style his own desire to be as bravely sincere as Agee.

Anyway, the tension between the two writers is instructive. I think Agee is the greater artist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lifelong admirer (and teacher) of Updike and Agee (Let Us Now Praise), I find Updike&#8217;s middle-aged suburban irony and Agee&#8217;s youthful, urban sincerity both difficult to teach undergraduates and necessary for my students to experience. I&#8217;ve always wondered if Agee ruined himself out of fear of becoming, perhaps inevitably, Updike himself&#8211;successful, ironic, and a finally empty (Licks of Love&#8211;Agee&#8217;s nightmare) version of his own golfing adulterers. And Updike, perhaps, was successful because he was able to repress with his slick style his own desire to be as bravely sincere as Agee.</p>
<p>Anyway, the tension between the two writers is instructive. I think Agee is the greater artist.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Balla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Balla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 22:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful to see Liza Birnbaum&#039;s own apt perspectives, slight digressions, and ample references.

I&#039;ll remember the name.  She may tack off in some direction(s) somewhat different from dear Agee&#039;s but, with this writing of hers as an alert, I eagerly await wherever prose next takes her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful to see Liza Birnbaum&#8217;s own apt perspectives, slight digressions, and ample references.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll remember the name.  She may tack off in some direction(s) somewhat different from dear Agee&#8217;s but, with this writing of hers as an alert, I eagerly await wherever prose next takes her.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Klatte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Klatte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 00:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agee was a hero to me and to some of my fellow apprentice reporters in the Chicago Tribune&#039;s Neighborhood News department back in 1961-62. We saw him as a creative writer of enormous talent struggling against the restraints of journalism -- pretty much as we saw ourselves, in short. Let Us Now Praise Famous Men was journalism magnificently blown out of all proportion, a journalistic &quot;failure,&quot; an artistic triumph, and oh, that we might do the same someday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agee was a hero to me and to some of my fellow apprentice reporters in the Chicago Tribune&#8217;s Neighborhood News department back in 1961-62. We saw him as a creative writer of enormous talent struggling against the restraints of journalism &#8212; pretty much as we saw ourselves, in short. Let Us Now Praise Famous Men was journalism magnificently blown out of all proportion, a journalistic &#8220;failure,&#8221; an artistic triumph, and oh, that we might do the same someday.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Banks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Updike, the critic, was wrong--or just ill-informed--about many things. Recently, Stanley Cavell took him to task for his meandering thoughts about Ralph Waldo Emerson, presented, in that pseudo-reportial style of Updike&#039;s critical writing, as if they were a mere summing up of what careful readers already understood: &quot;It&#039;s not me saying this; it&#039;s the verdict of American culture.&quot; In the James Agee piece, Updike, in a similar vein, has this to say: &quot;The truth is that we would not think of Agee as a failure if he did not insist on it himself.&quot; There is no truth here but Updike&#039;s own.

And, anyway, why take Agee&#039;s word for it? It&#039;s always dangerous to attack a writer--or anybody, really--through his or her letters, which is what Updike is doing in his short piece. Writers are not especially helpful guides to their own writing, particularly when their criticism is filtered through personal letters, where one is often less thoughtful, careful, and articulate. As William Maxwell would say, &quot;We read other people&#039;s mail at our peril&quot;--especially so when we hang a critique on the reliability of the observations contained therein.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Updike, the critic, was wrong&#8211;or just ill-informed&#8211;about many things. Recently, Stanley Cavell took him to task for his meandering thoughts about Ralph Waldo Emerson, presented, in that pseudo-reportial style of Updike&#8217;s critical writing, as if they were a mere summing up of what careful readers already understood: &#8220;It&#8217;s not me saying this; it&#8217;s the verdict of American culture.&#8221; In the James Agee piece, Updike, in a similar vein, has this to say: &#8220;The truth is that we would not think of Agee as a failure if he did not insist on it himself.&#8221; There is no truth here but Updike&#8217;s own.</p>
<p>And, anyway, why take Agee&#8217;s word for it? It&#8217;s always dangerous to attack a writer&#8211;or anybody, really&#8211;through his or her letters, which is what Updike is doing in his short piece. Writers are not especially helpful guides to their own writing, particularly when their criticism is filtered through personal letters, where one is often less thoughtful, careful, and articulate. As William Maxwell would say, &#8220;We read other people&#8217;s mail at our peril&#8221;&#8211;especially so when we hang a critique on the reliability of the observations contained therein.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Krause</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Krause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Liza Birnbaum,

This is a great appreciation of Agee, though I would echo Lauren Davis&#039;s suggestion that alcohol played a decisive role in his failures, literary and personal. And I would say that the two were connected. There is, too, the matter of Agee&#039;s discomfort with women and his own sexuality -- questions which, as best I recall, are probed in at least a couple of the biographies that have been published. Paula Rabinowitz, writing about 20 years ago in &quot;Cultural Critique,&quot; explored Agee&#039;s &quot;voyeurism;&quot; more recently, David Denby, in the New Yorker, argued that Agee&#039;s work anticipates &quot;the strategies of self-acknowledgment&quot; which mark the non-fiction of our time and which remind us that &quot;the writer is not some impersonal conveyor of data but a fallible instrument of experience, including his own.&quot;

I, too, read Agee when I was a teenager, and I come back to him year after year, and try to get my students to bite. No success, at all, in the effort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Liza Birnbaum,</p>
<p>This is a great appreciation of Agee, though I would echo Lauren Davis&#8217;s suggestion that alcohol played a decisive role in his failures, literary and personal. And I would say that the two were connected. There is, too, the matter of Agee&#8217;s discomfort with women and his own sexuality &#8212; questions which, as best I recall, are probed in at least a couple of the biographies that have been published. Paula Rabinowitz, writing about 20 years ago in &#8220;Cultural Critique,&#8221; explored Agee&#8217;s &#8220;voyeurism;&#8221; more recently, David Denby, in the New Yorker, argued that Agee&#8217;s work anticipates &#8220;the strategies of self-acknowledgment&#8221; which mark the non-fiction of our time and which remind us that &#8220;the writer is not some impersonal conveyor of data but a fallible instrument of experience, including his own.&#8221;</p>
<p>I, too, read Agee when I was a teenager, and I come back to him year after year, and try to get my students to bite. No success, at all, in the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren B. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren B. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 13:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this.  I read &quot;Let Us Now Praise Famous Men&quot; when I was fourteen, and it clarified my desire to become a writer.  Agee&#039;s desperation to make me understand that place and those people was intoxicating.  I wanted to do something similarly important, to find some similar Herculean task on which to devote my life.  

What I see now in re-reading the work, but was incapable of seeing then, is Agee&#039;s slide into a different sort of intoxication.  There are long passages which are not merely messy and amateurish, but downright sodden with booze.  That, to me, is the great tragedy of Agee. And perhaps I should thank him for that as well, for with seventeen plus years of sobriety behind me, I didn&#039;t want to repeat his journey into alcoholic hell.  Agee&#039;s writing was ruined, it might be argued, by his alcoholism.  I only began publishing after I got sober, which was as it should be.  What I wrote under the influence of booze was, frankly, useless.  And so it goes.  

In any event, I still hold &quot;Famous Men&quot; as one of the world&#039;s great books -- difficult, sloppy, intense and scalding, it is also unique and unforgettable.  It deserves to be in the canon, as does Agee, drunk or sober.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this.  I read &#8220;Let Us Now Praise Famous Men&#8221; when I was fourteen, and it clarified my desire to become a writer.  Agee&#8217;s desperation to make me understand that place and those people was intoxicating.  I wanted to do something similarly important, to find some similar Herculean task on which to devote my life.  </p>
<p>What I see now in re-reading the work, but was incapable of seeing then, is Agee&#8217;s slide into a different sort of intoxication.  There are long passages which are not merely messy and amateurish, but downright sodden with booze.  That, to me, is the great tragedy of Agee. And perhaps I should thank him for that as well, for with seventeen plus years of sobriety behind me, I didn&#8217;t want to repeat his journey into alcoholic hell.  Agee&#8217;s writing was ruined, it might be argued, by his alcoholism.  I only began publishing after I got sober, which was as it should be.  What I wrote under the influence of booze was, frankly, useless.  And so it goes.  </p>
<p>In any event, I still hold &#8220;Famous Men&#8221; as one of the world&#8217;s great books &#8212; difficult, sloppy, intense and scalding, it is also unique and unforgettable.  It deserves to be in the canon, as does Agee, drunk or sober.</p>
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