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		<title>By: Paul M.B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul M.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Mr. Zipes&#039;s assertions are correct, then the transformation of fairy tales from their root form to their current form is a result of an oligarchical need to transform the attitudes of the masses, groundlings, whatever you call them, by a sort of cultural coprophagia. By editing stories and fundamentally transforming their meaning for the consumption of those from whom the stories originally came, the paradigm shifts ever so slightly with every successive rerendering. These renditions are gladly consumed by their original creators in spirit, if not in fact, due to their familiarity, even if they are only really processed byproducts devoid of all the original cultural and practical nutrients. I won&#039;t belabor you with the obvious scatological analogy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mr. Zipes&#8217;s assertions are correct, then the transformation of fairy tales from their root form to their current form is a result of an oligarchical need to transform the attitudes of the masses, groundlings, whatever you call them, by a sort of cultural coprophagia. By editing stories and fundamentally transforming their meaning for the consumption of those from whom the stories originally came, the paradigm shifts ever so slightly with every successive rerendering. These renditions are gladly consumed by their original creators in spirit, if not in fact, due to their familiarity, even if they are only really processed byproducts devoid of all the original cultural and practical nutrients. I won&#8217;t belabor you with the obvious scatological analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nothing against this Zipes guy, but he’s something of a johnny-come-lately in this field...&quot;

Every historian is a &quot;johnny-come-lately&quot;. Folktales and fairy tales have only been talked about as such for about, oh... 200 years or so, if we date the academic study of folktales back to the Grimms. So Bettelheim wrote in the 1970s? Zipes has also been writing on folktales since at least the early 80s. But so what? Bettelheim wrote in the 70s; let&#039;s pack it in. Nothing more to say here.

I&#039;ve got nothing against psychoanalytic theory per se, but Zipes approaches fairy tales from a social perspective. Those paths will meet, naturally, but I favor Zipes&#039; social-historical perspective, even if I think his point of view is too ideological at times. It&#039;s just too easy to find phallic objects and ersatz-vaginas in fairy tales.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nothing against this Zipes guy, but he’s something of a johnny-come-lately in this field&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Every historian is a &#8220;johnny-come-lately&#8221;. Folktales and fairy tales have only been talked about as such for about, oh&#8230; 200 years or so, if we date the academic study of folktales back to the Grimms. So Bettelheim wrote in the 1970s? Zipes has also been writing on folktales since at least the early 80s. But so what? Bettelheim wrote in the 70s; let&#8217;s pack it in. Nothing more to say here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got nothing against psychoanalytic theory per se, but Zipes approaches fairy tales from a social perspective. Those paths will meet, naturally, but I favor Zipes&#8217; social-historical perspective, even if I think his point of view is too ideological at times. It&#8217;s just too easy to find phallic objects and ersatz-vaginas in fairy tales.</p>
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		<title>By: The Disneyization Of Fairy Tales &#124; The Penn Ave Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Disneyization Of Fairy Tales &#124; The Penn Ave Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks of the Week: From the Cradle of Modernism to Never-Neverland &#124; Portable Homeland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks of the Week: From the Cradle of Modernism to Never-Neverland &#124; Portable Homeland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 02:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jupiterjenkins &#187; Sunday morning score prep and David Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>jupiterjenkins &#187; Sunday morning score prep and David Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Book review of Jack Zipes&#8217; The Irresistible Fairy Tale &#124; Open Letters Monthly &#8211; an Arts and Literature Review &#124; Mark Solock Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Book review of Jack Zipes&#8217; The Irresistible Fairy Tale &#124; Open Letters Monthly &#8211; an Arts and Literature Review &#124; Mark Solock Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: G. Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A pleasant and learned discussion, what we originally hoped the internet would be like, but which it seldom is. I will save this article and the comments, and check out some of these books over semester break. Best, GL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pleasant and learned discussion, what we originally hoped the internet would be like, but which it seldom is. I will save this article and the comments, and check out some of these books over semester break. Best, GL</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Gado</title>
		<link>http://www.openlettersmonthly.com/never-neverland/comment-page-1/#comment-21738</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Gado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have not read &quot;&quot;The Irresistible Fairy Tale,&quot;&quot; and most probably never will. Zipes&#039;s preoccupations have led him to mold everything to his last--and to ignore whatever defies his molding.

Max Ross&#039;s review, poised on Zipes&#039;s study, mentions several of the &quot;standard&quot; scribes of what we erroneously call fairy tales. Presumably, these stories illustrate Zipes&#039;s Marxist thesis. In fact, to mix a metaphor of these metaphors, it&#039;s a mixed salad. Carlo Lorenzini, who wrote under the pseudonym Carlo Collodi, was an Italian nationalist whose children&#039;s tales are generally (though not exclusively) allegorical. Matteo Bandello, the best known and most polished of the 16th-century novellieri, really doesn&#039;t fit in the &quot;fairy tale&quot; category; he is much closer to the Boccaccio of the Decameron. The tale which Shakespeare adapted as Romeo and Juliet, for example, is hardly about class struggle.

Apparently,Zipes also conveniently passes up collections of Scandinavian tales, among the many other ethnic funds. (Carl von Sydow--Max&#039;s father--did an extensive and very well regarded study of this material). And what of non-European tales? There is a Chinese &quot;Cinderella&quot; which has been claimed to be the original of the Perrault version. Whether this is true or simply a collateral dressing of a model that independently arises among various peoples is a question worth exploring if one wishes to make the kind of claim Zipes insists upon.

Bettelheim&#039;s &quot;&quot;The Uses of Enchantment&quot;&quot; caused quite a stir when it was issued. It shouldn&#039;t have. For one thing, the psychoanalytic evidence is much broader than the little he relies upon, and even in those tales he cites, his interpretation tends to be rather constricted. For another, his thesis was obvious long before he promulgated it.

What qualifies a story as a fairy tale needs to be established before a broad theory is proposed as to its generic font. Washington Irving, the father of the short story, drew on two Marchen (and was viciously--and wrongly--attacked for plagiarism); is &quot;Rip Van Winkle&quot; a fairy tale? (See Phillip Young&#039;s essay on the many resemblances between Irving&#039;s version and tales from all over the world. --No, I can&#039;t remember the title off hand, but Young later included it in one of his books.)

If any thesis can be said to hold generally true about &quot;folk&quot; tales, I would say the psychoanalytical foundations should be given high priority. Kinder und Hausmarchen, in every language, tended to be told by grandmothers (or older women) to children, and unconsciously expressed hidden wisdom about navigating their course toward adulthood--usually in its sexual aspects. This motif persists in much &quot;adult&quot; fiction In a real sense, Fifty Shades of Grey is a fairy tale--and it expresses not a class struggle but the freedom from moral strictures imposed on female desires. When, years ago, I showed Lena Wertmuller&#039;s &quot;&quot;Swept Away&quot;&quot; in one of my courses, most of the women students berated me for encouraging the values of female submissiveness.After almost half an hour of protest, I asked the women to answer honestly whether they entertained rape fantasies. (Most indicated that they had. Their answer does not,m of course, mean that they actually wished to be raped.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read &#8220;&#8221;The Irresistible Fairy Tale,&#8221;" and most probably never will. Zipes&#8217;s preoccupations have led him to mold everything to his last&#8211;and to ignore whatever defies his molding.</p>
<p>Max Ross&#8217;s review, poised on Zipes&#8217;s study, mentions several of the &#8220;standard&#8221; scribes of what we erroneously call fairy tales. Presumably, these stories illustrate Zipes&#8217;s Marxist thesis. In fact, to mix a metaphor of these metaphors, it&#8217;s a mixed salad. Carlo Lorenzini, who wrote under the pseudonym Carlo Collodi, was an Italian nationalist whose children&#8217;s tales are generally (though not exclusively) allegorical. Matteo Bandello, the best known and most polished of the 16th-century novellieri, really doesn&#8217;t fit in the &#8220;fairy tale&#8221; category; he is much closer to the Boccaccio of the Decameron. The tale which Shakespeare adapted as Romeo and Juliet, for example, is hardly about class struggle.</p>
<p>Apparently,Zipes also conveniently passes up collections of Scandinavian tales, among the many other ethnic funds. (Carl von Sydow&#8211;Max&#8217;s father&#8211;did an extensive and very well regarded study of this material). And what of non-European tales? There is a Chinese &#8220;Cinderella&#8221; which has been claimed to be the original of the Perrault version. Whether this is true or simply a collateral dressing of a model that independently arises among various peoples is a question worth exploring if one wishes to make the kind of claim Zipes insists upon.</p>
<p>Bettelheim&#8217;s &#8220;&#8221;The Uses of Enchantment&#8221;" caused quite a stir when it was issued. It shouldn&#8217;t have. For one thing, the psychoanalytic evidence is much broader than the little he relies upon, and even in those tales he cites, his interpretation tends to be rather constricted. For another, his thesis was obvious long before he promulgated it.</p>
<p>What qualifies a story as a fairy tale needs to be established before a broad theory is proposed as to its generic font. Washington Irving, the father of the short story, drew on two Marchen (and was viciously&#8211;and wrongly&#8211;attacked for plagiarism); is &#8220;Rip Van Winkle&#8221; a fairy tale? (See Phillip Young&#8217;s essay on the many resemblances between Irving&#8217;s version and tales from all over the world. &#8211;No, I can&#8217;t remember the title off hand, but Young later included it in one of his books.)</p>
<p>If any thesis can be said to hold generally true about &#8220;folk&#8221; tales, I would say the psychoanalytical foundations should be given high priority. Kinder und Hausmarchen, in every language, tended to be told by grandmothers (or older women) to children, and unconsciously expressed hidden wisdom about navigating their course toward adulthood&#8211;usually in its sexual aspects. This motif persists in much &#8220;adult&#8221; fiction In a real sense, Fifty Shades of Grey is a fairy tale&#8211;and it expresses not a class struggle but the freedom from moral strictures imposed on female desires. When, years ago, I showed Lena Wertmuller&#8217;s &#8220;&#8221;Swept Away&#8221;" in one of my courses, most of the women students berated me for encouraging the values of female submissiveness.After almost half an hour of protest, I asked the women to answer honestly whether they entertained rape fantasies. (Most indicated that they had. Their answer does not,m of course, mean that they actually wished to be raped.)</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on the review I will check out this book at my library. 

But as a college instructor who teaches Folklore I must say that the author seems to have missed many previous analysis of fairy tales and applied modern standards on the interpretation. 

Furthermore the Author lumps different. Types of folktales together. I suggest taking a look at Stith Thompson&#039;s updated &quot;The Types of the Folktale.&quot; Thompson&#039;s classification breaks tales down into  &quot;Type-Index&quot; and &quot;Motif-Index&quot;. For example a folktale such as &quot;Cinderella&quot; is classified at Type 510A but &quot;identification by fitting of Slipper&quot; is Motif H36.1

I would also suggest reading the work of Svend Grundtvig -early classification of Danish folktales- and Kaarle Krohn, founding father of modern folktale research. 

Long live Märchen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the review I will check out this book at my library. </p>
<p>But as a college instructor who teaches Folklore I must say that the author seems to have missed many previous analysis of fairy tales and applied modern standards on the interpretation. </p>
<p>Furthermore the Author lumps different. Types of folktales together. I suggest taking a look at Stith Thompson&#8217;s updated &#8220;The Types of the Folktale.&#8221; Thompson&#8217;s classification breaks tales down into  &#8220;Type-Index&#8221; and &#8220;Motif-Index&#8221;. For example a folktale such as &#8220;Cinderella&#8221; is classified at Type 510A but &#8220;identification by fitting of Slipper&#8221; is Motif H36.1</p>
<p>I would also suggest reading the work of Svend Grundtvig -early classification of Danish folktales- and Kaarle Krohn, founding father of modern folktale research. </p>
<p>Long live Märchen!</p>
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		<title>By: The Irresistible Fairy Tale: The Cultural and Social History of the Genre &#171; Deimos eZine</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Irresistible Fairy Tale: The Cultural and Social History of the Genre &#171; Deimos eZine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: G. Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good review, and a refreshing willingness to be politically incorrect. Let me provide some academic context which may explain why Prof. Zipes sounded to you somewhat doctrinaire. You&#039;ve noticed a turf war between folklore scholars and popular culture scholars. I do ethnic studies and was asked, some years ago, to write an encyclopedia article on Chicano (Mexican American) folklore. The folklore scholars had worked happily for a century on Texas, Arizona, New Mexico rural traditions. But when the Chicanos became one of the most urbanized groups in America, the folklore scholars refused to follow them into the cities. The scholars were not just leftists, they were primitivists by temperament, like Rousseau. City people produced kitsch, not folklore. &quot;Not so!&#039; the popular culture people had retorted, since Susan Sontag helped legitimize that study in the late Sixties. Batman, Marilyn Monroe, Darth Vader, narco corridos, the Death of Selena or those hip-hop sagas you mention, these tales were mythic-- and as authentic as Elfego Baca had been. So Prof. Zipes apparently went out of his way to show you that if you can believe pop culture is the equal of true folklore, you&#039;ve been manipulated?  I finally had to side with the pop culture people when it came to Chicanos, if only because, if they can only produce true folklore when they are On The Land, so to speak, it&#039;s over for them. And I don&#039;t believe that for a second. G. J. Leonard, San Francisco State University]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good review, and a refreshing willingness to be politically incorrect. Let me provide some academic context which may explain why Prof. Zipes sounded to you somewhat doctrinaire. You&#8217;ve noticed a turf war between folklore scholars and popular culture scholars. I do ethnic studies and was asked, some years ago, to write an encyclopedia article on Chicano (Mexican American) folklore. The folklore scholars had worked happily for a century on Texas, Arizona, New Mexico rural traditions. But when the Chicanos became one of the most urbanized groups in America, the folklore scholars refused to follow them into the cities. The scholars were not just leftists, they were primitivists by temperament, like Rousseau. City people produced kitsch, not folklore. &#8220;Not so!&#8217; the popular culture people had retorted, since Susan Sontag helped legitimize that study in the late Sixties. Batman, Marilyn Monroe, Darth Vader, narco corridos, the Death of Selena or those hip-hop sagas you mention, these tales were mythic&#8211; and as authentic as Elfego Baca had been. So Prof. Zipes apparently went out of his way to show you that if you can believe pop culture is the equal of true folklore, you&#8217;ve been manipulated?  I finally had to side with the pop culture people when it came to Chicanos, if only because, if they can only produce true folklore when they are On The Land, so to speak, it&#8217;s over for them. And I don&#8217;t believe that for a second. G. J. Leonard, San Francisco State University</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These became nursery stories long before Disney got hold of them. Wolves don&#039;t hold much terror or understanding for an industrialised society - especially one with guns.

For my part, as a child the role of the wolf was taken by government functionaries: whenever I misbehaved I&#039;d be threatened with: &quot;Careful, or the social workers will come and take you away&quot;.

That worked pretty well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These became nursery stories long before Disney got hold of them. Wolves don&#8217;t hold much terror or understanding for an industrialised society &#8211; especially one with guns.</p>
<p>For my part, as a child the role of the wolf was taken by government functionaries: whenever I misbehaved I&#8217;d be threatened with: &#8220;Careful, or the social workers will come and take you away&#8221;.</p>
<p>That worked pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: jal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the other hand, Bettleheim&#039;s book has been roundly criticized for its reliance on psychoanalytical theory and its use of unrepresentative samples of the items discussed. Check out the folklore literature, Max.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, Bettleheim&#8217;s book has been roundly criticized for its reliance on psychoanalytical theory and its use of unrepresentative samples of the items discussed. Check out the folklore literature, Max.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a point well taken, MSG, and one for which I have no legitimate rebuttal or excuse. While doing research for this piece, I looked into the work of others in and around the field (Maria Tatar, Angela Carter, etc.), but being a novice overlooked Bettleheim, grossly. Will check him out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a point well taken, MSG, and one for which I have no legitimate rebuttal or excuse. While doing research for this piece, I looked into the work of others in and around the field (Maria Tatar, Angela Carter, etc.), but being a novice overlooked Bettleheim, grossly. Will check him out.</p>
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		<title>By: MSG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That this article doesn&#039;t anywhere mention Bruno Bettleheim&#039;s incredibly important book from the early 70s, &quot;The Uses of Enchantment: The Meaning And Importance of Fairy Tales&quot; is almost criminal negligence. Bettleheim&#039;s book is right up there with Jung, Eliade, and Campbell in terms of explicating and understanding the psychological value of these old tales.

Nothing against this Zipes guy, but he&#039;s something of a johnny-come-lately in this field, and an article that goes into the level of detail that this one does about the origins of the stories (the Grimms, et.al.) should *really* mention the 20th century anticendents who did vital work in analyzing the underpinnings of these fascinating tales!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That this article doesn&#8217;t anywhere mention Bruno Bettleheim&#8217;s incredibly important book from the early 70s, &#8220;The Uses of Enchantment: The Meaning And Importance of Fairy Tales&#8221; is almost criminal negligence. Bettleheim&#8217;s book is right up there with Jung, Eliade, and Campbell in terms of explicating and understanding the psychological value of these old tales.</p>
<p>Nothing against this Zipes guy, but he&#8217;s something of a johnny-come-lately in this field, and an article that goes into the level of detail that this one does about the origins of the stories (the Grimms, et.al.) should *really* mention the 20th century anticendents who did vital work in analyzing the underpinnings of these fascinating tales!</p>
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